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Response to @Sargon_of_Akkad in @YouTube comments

1:44 A degree of socialism IS a necessary evil. [Only for socialists; freedom-lovers trust private entrepreneurs and know from experience that they are more responsive to customers than bureaucrats ever are. I wonder what you think of Ayn Rand or her “Atlas Shrugged?”] So are taxes. So is exercise. [Sorry, not “evil;” just a choice.] So is petrol for your car.[Not evil either. Do you prefer horses? Good luck getting to Europe or Australia – in a timely manner.] There are many things that are necessary evils for the individual that we tolerate for the betterment of society. This is not totalitarianism. I find it laughable that you’d suggest it was, but then, if you heavily agree with a lot of what Adam Baldwin was saying, I can already see that we do not agree on much.

2:23 I already live in a country that has a degree of socialism. We don’t have gulags, just if you’re wondering. It seems that your opposition to what I’ve said is based on a slippery slope fallacy. [Yup. Politicians are not to be trusted. This goes double for avowed Progressives since we know who their mentors are. i.e. Saul Alinsky for one. Witness “missing” emails of Clinton2016; missing emails of IRS chieftess; and on & on] If we have a small degree of socialism, for some reason we’ll become Stalinists who execute the political opposition. [You won’t, as you don’t like guns, but you can’t say the same for those you put in power or who come into power.]

2:57 Um, I don’t really see what you find outrageous about this. Communism DOES sound good, but, as I said in the quote you just gave, it doesn’t work. [What is “good” about faceless unaccountable bureaucrats managing every conceivable business/industry? Are you not sufficiently frustrated by dealing with the phone-trees of Big Businesses that you’d welcome settling every product-shortcoming, shipping error, or damage through government-interaction? Oh, God!]

3:10 Are you aware that the American government is responsible for murdering millions of civilians as well, right? 2 million Vietnamese, 1 million Iraqis, 500,000 Iraqi children through sanctions, etc etc. Nobody is innocent. [That sucks. It’s evil. But as the song says, “War, huh, good God, what is it good for?” NOT absolutely nothing, rather, absolutely ONE thing: the Military (i.e. Government)-Industrial Complex. Talk to the politicians & crony-crapitalists.]

3:26 I’m not quiet about it, I’m VERY GLAD THE UK DOES NOT HAVE GUNS. Thankfully, we’re not a republic, and we don’t have the worry the US does about tyranny. [I’m confused as to why you believe your plot-of-dirt & the elites who rule over it & you are IMMUNE? Power corrupts.]

3:45 If we have a degree of socialism, and you have a degree of socialism, is it actually the mortal wound for a society that you’re making it out to be? [Time will tell. Exceptions like Obamacare aside, Government overreach is typically like a glacier: it’s always moving outwards, just not noticeably most of the time. Somewhere I have the interesting (!) figures on how many shelf-inches our IRS statutes took up 40 or 50 years ago compared to around 2000. That’s just one illustration of the staggering increase in government “control.”]

4:32 They’re never, ever going to overthrow the British government. [I don’t pray, but I’ll consider doing so just for this to be true!] 4:41 No, you’re an alarmist. [Agree; I see the Worst Case Scenario in everything.]

4:57 It doesn’t have to be all or nothing.

5:24 No, the government can also help by incentives. [Alas, the USA War on Poverty did the opposite – like its War on Drugs. There’s more of both. The only “incentive” is for single women to stay single and increase their “family” size to increase the benefits. I like a fellow YT’er’s idea: dorms for these purposefully-fatherless families with communal (!) meals. Now that’s an incentive to stay out of the welfare system.] But anyway, the alternative is a client-patron model along the Roman lines – a model which still flourishes in modern Italy today. This model is notoriously corrupt and all of the Italians I’ve ever spoken to are dead-set against it for that reason.

5:30 I don’t agree that taxation is theft.

5:55 Honestly, I’d probably make it higher were I made dictator of Earth. You speak as if millionaires are plowing the fields and giving away half of their produce. They are, in reality, exploiting a system and while that in itself is no bad thing, the excesses of the system absolutely need to be curbed. I don’t know whether you’ve noticed but we recently learned that 1% of the population of the earth has 50% of the wealth. This is insane, and only an insane person would support a system like that. [Barring inherited wealth (Like the Kennedys, say), you make it sound like all you need to do is rob people at gunpoint to become a millionaire. Any idea of the blood, sweat, and tears that have gone into building such businesses? Now if you are referring to the Wall Street types that futures-trade/speculate and generally mess with the actual market-value of commodities? Yeah, I despise those gamers, too. But again, I believe a lot of that is due to the corrupting effect of Wall Street+ DC politicians. I could be wrong.]

6:21 Now that sounded like politics of envy. If you don’t want to pay so much tax, why not get a different job so you drop below the 50% tax rate? Ah, because you want to enjoy the benefit of being one of society’s highest earners without contributing anything back to the system that enabled you to do this in the first place. [High earners (other than Wall Street sleazers) HAVE contributed: they make PRODUCTS we buy; provide services we use…remember the AA woman you critiqued bragging how even millions of poor Africans have smart-phones? THAT is “giving back.” Neither those Africans nor myself could have made OUR OWN smart phones. The inventor, designer, manufacturer, etc, makes my life better for all their big-$$$ incomes. I’m happy for that. Can’t you see what The Market has given you? I can. “No one can make a pencil.”] We can’t all be winners, some people have to be at the bottom. [Sarcasm?]

6:37 It’s not an infinite system. [Imagination is unlimited. “Better mousetraps,” as the saying goes, are invented all the time.] Everything has limits, [Not human-ingenuity] even the amount of public debt America can handle. [“Government debt”, but agree.]

6:58 That does not change the amount of dollars in the system. [Dollars are symbolic of “value.” So agree that printing “paper dollars” is the problem. That does NOT create anything of true value; it appeases “the people” who get handed the pieces of worth-less paper in the form of welfare, student-loans, small-business-loans, etc.] The issue America is having is wealth hoarding. [Hoarding pieces of paper printed by idiots IS idiotic.] The issue is distribution, not quantity.

7:33 The definition is based on the value of the dollar. In Zimbabwe there are many multi-trillionaires, but very few rich people.

8:23 So what? So because I have now become rich, we should change the definition to suit me? What a childish notion. 8:28 I will grumble into my caviar in the huge dining room of my mansion about it. [LOL]

8:56 Listen, when Bill Gates drops $1000 on the floor, it is not worth his time to bend and pick it up. He makes THAT much money per hour. [Do you seriously believe he has forgotten the “value” of $1000? You don’t think he remembers what it was like to be an entry-level hamburger flipper?] These people are NOT labouring, they are the recipients of investments, hedge funds and stocks. [Based upon their ORIGINAL designs and labor.] They are profiting from OTHER PEOPLES’ LABOUR. [A business man pays his workers, or he is a slave owner. Even slave owners (like parents, actually!) “paid” food, housing, clothing, as bad as it was. And I’m NOT saying slavery is a good thing!]

9:20 Okay, I’m done. My religion is “statism, totalitarianism or socialism” is quite divorced from reality. I hope I’ve addressed your criticisms in a way you think is fair, [Absolutely. I hope you’ll at least skim my responses!] I simply don’t agree with your world view. [Agree-to-disagree. I’m fine with that.]


Happily married 3rd-wave houseWife; opinionated; Liberty-loving defensive-firearms advocate; Jane-of-many-trades; Freelance graphic-design.

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